Comments on: The impact of Google’s bold move http://www.susiewee.com/blog/2010/01/13/the-impact-of-googles-bold-move/ A casual blog on work, life, and play. Fri, 22 Apr 2011 02:09:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Paul B. http://www.susiewee.com/blog/2010/01/13/the-impact-of-googles-bold-move/comment-page-1/#comment-562 Paul B. Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:20:43 +0000 http://www.susiewee.com/blog/2010/01/13/the-impact-of-googles-bold-move/#comment-562 I struggle with the fact that if we ALWAYS play by China's cultural rules, it is a one-way relationship that yields few if any results. Sure we may save a hostage here or there, but funny how the situations keep occurring. What is best for Google and business in general in China, not just the people, is a change is in the ways of the Chinese Government. Sometimes only the light of day can change behavior. I find it interesting that the world's most popular blogger, Chinese himself, is blatantly flipping off Chinese officials in their face (literally). Even the Chinese government is afraid of losing the hearts and minds of its people. Perhaps what Google did will hurt them now but may help everyone in the long term. Obviously, as I think you agree, it is a delicate balance. I struggle with the fact that if we ALWAYS play by China’s cultural rules, it is a one-way relationship that yields few if any results. Sure we may save a hostage here or there, but funny how the situations keep occurring. What is best for Google and business in general in China, not just the people, is a change is in the ways of the Chinese Government. Sometimes only the light of day can change behavior. I find it interesting that the world’s most popular blogger, Chinese himself, is blatantly flipping off Chinese officials in their face (literally). Even the Chinese government is afraid of losing the hearts and minds of its people. Perhaps what Google did will hurt them now but may help everyone in the long term. Obviously, as I think you agree, it is a delicate balance.

]]> By: LiuXiaobo http://www.susiewee.com/blog/2010/01/13/the-impact-of-googles-bold-move/comment-page-1/#comment-527 LiuXiaobo Fri, 15 Jan 2010 23:39:01 +0000 http://www.susiewee.com/blog/2010/01/13/the-impact-of-googles-bold-move/#comment-527 Right or efficient is not the issue here. The issue here is that fundamental principles within business here has been violated. If a firm should be afraid of industrial espionage then their is no reason to stay in that country any more. Google has drawn the line here. That means that there is no way to be efficient if all their tools(source codes and Math also called algorithms) are being stolen by the government. This is not about culture but about fundamental business ethics. It is the government's responsibility to create a safe and stable environment to do business in. Here we clearly see that the Chinese Government has failed badly. Forget about the culture, forget about all these diversions about how to do things right in China. They are just tools made up to make naive foreign investors agree on paying more, accepting more etc. China is full of people like in the rest of the world. The have feelings and interests like the rest of the world. The Chines Government has financial interests like the rest of the world. This is about acquiring technology and knowledge which is strategically useful for the government and government owned firms in China. Nothing else. This is the true hard facts no one dares to speak out aloud. Right or efficient is not the issue here. The issue here is that fundamental principles within business here has been violated. If a firm should be afraid of industrial espionage then their is no reason to stay in that country any more. Google has drawn the line here. That means that there is no way to be efficient if all their tools(source codes and Math also called algorithms) are being stolen by the government. This is not about culture but about fundamental business ethics. It is the government’s responsibility to create a safe and stable environment to do business in. Here we clearly see that the Chinese Government has failed badly. Forget about the culture, forget about all these diversions about how to do things right in China. They are just tools made up to make naive foreign investors agree on paying more, accepting more etc. China is full of people like in the rest of the world. The have feelings and interests like the rest of the world. The Chines Government has financial interests like the rest of the world. This is about acquiring technology and knowledge which is strategically useful for the government and government owned firms in China. Nothing else. This is the true hard facts no one dares to speak out aloud.

]]> By: susiewee http://www.susiewee.com/blog/2010/01/13/the-impact-of-googles-bold-move/comment-page-1/#comment-524 susiewee Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:46:25 +0000 http://www.susiewee.com/blog/2010/01/13/the-impact-of-googles-bold-move/#comment-524 Thank you all for your comments. I appreciate your different viewpoints and the discussion! Thank you all for your comments. I appreciate your different viewpoints and the discussion!

]]> By: susiewee http://www.susiewee.com/blog/2010/01/13/the-impact-of-googles-bold-move/comment-page-1/#comment-523 susiewee Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:44:00 +0000 http://www.susiewee.com/blog/2010/01/13/the-impact-of-googles-bold-move/#comment-523 Nice little story. Certainly creating change requires very artful interactions. Being respectful does not mean being passive or agreeable. I think you can create change by being assertive and respectful. Admittedly, I'm an optimist. ;-) Nice little story.

Certainly creating change requires very artful interactions. Being respectful does not mean being passive or agreeable. I think you can create change by being assertive and respectful. Admittedly, I’m an optimist. ;-)

]]> By: susiewee http://www.susiewee.com/blog/2010/01/13/the-impact-of-googles-bold-move/comment-page-1/#comment-522 susiewee Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:35:04 +0000 http://www.susiewee.com/blog/2010/01/13/the-impact-of-googles-bold-move/#comment-522 It is very interesting to consider how to follow each country's law in cyber-space. Yes, this tear drop has certainly created an overflow! It is very interesting to consider how to follow each country’s law in cyber-space. Yes, this tear drop has certainly created an overflow!

]]> By: susiewee http://www.susiewee.com/blog/2010/01/13/the-impact-of-googles-bold-move/comment-page-1/#comment-521 susiewee Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:29:54 +0000 http://www.susiewee.com/blog/2010/01/13/the-impact-of-googles-bold-move/#comment-521 Good point. Thanks for adding another perspective to consider. Good point. Thanks for adding another perspective to consider.

]]> By: susiewee http://www.susiewee.com/blog/2010/01/13/the-impact-of-googles-bold-move/comment-page-1/#comment-520 susiewee Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:26:53 +0000 http://www.susiewee.com/blog/2010/01/13/the-impact-of-googles-bold-move/#comment-520 Thanks for your comment. I am not at all against the principle. I am mainly discussing the approach used to achieve it. Many approaches can work, so let's see how things play out. Thanks for your comment. I am not at all against the principle. I am mainly discussing the approach used to achieve it. Many approaches can work, so let’s see how things play out.

]]> By: susiewee http://www.susiewee.com/blog/2010/01/13/the-impact-of-googles-bold-move/comment-page-1/#comment-519 susiewee Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:22:57 +0000 http://www.susiewee.com/blog/2010/01/13/the-impact-of-googles-bold-move/#comment-519 Good points here, especially on bringing attention to the worsening conditions for Western businesses in China. By the way, I don't think the people are offended... rather just sad... sad like in losing a good friend. Good points here, especially on bringing attention to the worsening conditions for Western businesses in China. By the way, I don’t think the people are offended… rather just sad… sad like in losing a good friend.

]]> By: susiewee http://www.susiewee.com/blog/2010/01/13/the-impact-of-googles-bold-move/comment-page-1/#comment-518 susiewee Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:20:43 +0000 http://www.susiewee.com/blog/2010/01/13/the-impact-of-googles-bold-move/#comment-518 Great point. I wonder if they tried to use what they found as a negotiation chip. And yes, we should differentiate the people from the government in the discussion. Thanks. Great point. I wonder if they tried to use what they found as a negotiation chip. And yes, we should differentiate the people from the government in the discussion. Thanks.

]]> By: susiewee http://www.susiewee.com/blog/2010/01/13/the-impact-of-googles-bold-move/comment-page-1/#comment-517 susiewee Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:11:59 +0000 http://www.susiewee.com/blog/2010/01/13/the-impact-of-googles-bold-move/#comment-517 But what about the people? But what about the people?

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